Do you upgrade to Windows 10?

The user's name above me explains it, yes?

Gonna go through with this soon.

31-07-2015, 12:04 AM

GodsHand Wrote: I'm going to get Windows 10 today. Really like the new browser they've got out but with all the NSA and internet spying going around I'm sure everyone with Windows 10 is being recorded.

#I'm That Guy

I believe a lot of the "spyware" was only included in the preview builds, for obvious reasons. The rest is probably just misunderstood, I doubt Microsoft have the resources, or if they'd even need to collect this data for a purpose other than cloud computing.

I don't how it matters anyway, don't try to find tutorials on how to make a bomb and you'll be alright!

The new browser is pretty snappy, however it'll take some getting used to.

Well, I'm on win 10 now.
yay and thanks pulsey.

29-07-2015, 11:05 PM

Pulseeey Wrote:

29-07-2015, 10:40 PM

sodentond Wrote:

29-07-2015, 12:35 AM

TomThomson Wrote: Windows 10 is coming any moment! Will you upgrade?
I will becuase I like the new design and the new browser :3

Absolutely not. Read the user agreement.

Examples:
every thing you download, movies or pictures, etc- goes to Microsoft
everything you visit, including tor, goes to Microsoft.
keystrokes go to Microsoft (OS is a keylogger)
every fucking thing goes to Microsoft. Free? More like voluntary monitoring by the NSA.
Do some research. I'm not "upgrading".

I believe this was only in the preview, and was never confirmed as far as I know.

You also act as if not upgrading makes your immune from the NSA, it doesn't at all. They still read meta data collected from fiber lines, also their are rumors all Windows operating systems have back-doors in. It's an old rumor that is getting old quite frankly.


I don't see how any of this is relevant anyway, unless you enjoy visiting ISIS recruitment hubs or learning how to make bombs. Just saying.

I think what you are refering to is the Equation Group malware which is strongly linked to the NSA.

https://blog.kaspersky.com/equation-hdd-malware/

The malware that when enters onto your HDD silently, rewrites the harddrives firmware to implant itself yet retains an original copy for security checks to say "yep this is me, the original".
The math alone to do this is absolutely "wow". A malicious hardware OS that is undetectable.

Kaspersky found it because a large portionof their clients were sending traffic to a certaindomain. They did their research and found it has no connetion to microsoft or windows or any commercial software.
They looked up the domain and saw it was open to be bought (typical mistake to re-register a domain since it's something that gets lots in bureaucracy)

So they bought it, had access to all of the traffic, and they could rip all the information they wanted. It was a C&C server. Think of the worlds largest most undetectable botnet that can be used for far far more than just primitive DDoS attacks.

There is a bunch to it but I think you get the point.

http://www.kaspersky.com/about/news/viru...-Espionage


Now, sincerely, Do you really think that "disabling" these privacy settings in Windows 10 is actually going to make a difference? Let's take a look at the facts..

• They are giving it away for free.
  
• They are making an astronomical amount of money from the marketing gross income. (Anything and literally everything you do is logged, sent to them. Default software from the OS has ADs in it.. Yes... Solitaire for example, which you can pay more money per monthto disable)
  
• The keylogger is going to be there, and if you disable it you will still be sending a lot of data that is private
  
• ALL WiFi passwords will be shared with ALL of your facebook friends automatically. (A massive security concern, I can hear the community free wifi app's blowing up already)
  
• and much more...
  

I'm a white hat with a career in the field, but if even I had access to any WiFi I wanted (at ease), I could / would probably do some pretty nasty things.
In the industry you would be pretty surprised the vulnerabilities and attack vectors that are open for major corporations if you know where to look.

Have you seen the movie kingsmen? If not I recommend you do.

Now I'm not a conspiracy person at all, but 80% or so of the entire world uses windows. (Talking companies here) and about 70% or so for personal computers.
They said this is going to be the last windows OS, this one will only be getting updated.
They are cutting off support, patches, etc, for past versions.
They are trying to make people switch. It is going to make them very rich with this strategy and it is going to take away a lot of what we know of privacy.

I canguarantee you your private information, tasks, habits, and deep/dark web onion sites you visit using TOR / what you do -period-are not being kept between you and yourself, or you and microsoft.

-and don't even get me started on the rogue cellphone towers....

31-07-2015, 02:03 AM

sodentond Wrote: -snip-

Interesting information however seems rather random and irrelevant, do you have any proof that any of this is within Windows 10 rather than just an educated hunch?

You don't really need to tell everyone their privacy is non-existent, pretty sure everyone knows this. Some people just don't give a fuck, me being one of them. I don't search for bomb making videos or ISIS recruitment often and if NSA want to know how I code my websites or what porn I watch, whatever floats their boat.

I'd appreciate it if you could provide prove this is the purpose of Windows 10, otherwise these types of posts are irrelevant to the thread purpose and potentially misleading. In which case if you want to talk about this further, feel free to open a thread in the suitable section(s).

31-07-2015, 02:58 AM

Pulseeey Wrote:

31-07-2015, 02:03 AM

sodentond Wrote: -snip-

Interesting information however seems rather random and irrelevant, do you have any proof that any of this is within Windows 10 rather than just an educated hunch?

You don't really need to tell everyone their privacy is non-existent, pretty sure everyone knows this. Some people just don't give a fuck, me being one of them. I don't search for bomb making videos or ISIS recruitment often and if NSA want to know how I code my websites or what porn I watch, whatever floats their boat.

I'd appreciate it if you could provide prove this is the purpose of Windows 10, otherwise these types of posts are irrelevant to the thread purpose and potentially misleading. In which case if you want to talk about this further, feel free to open a thread in the suitable section(s).

News articles, ITS research, Blackhat / Defcon / Etc events

31-07-2015, 11:15 PM

sodentond Wrote:

31-07-2015, 02:58 AM

Pulseeey Wrote:

31-07-2015, 02:03 AM

sodentond Wrote: -snip-

Interesting information however seems rather random and irrelevant, do you have any proof that any of this is within Windows 10 rather than just an educated hunch?

You don't really need to tell everyone their privacy is non-existent, pretty sure everyone knows this. Some people just don't give a fuck, me being one of them. I don't search for bomb making videos or ISIS recruitment often and if NSA want to know how I code my websites or what porn I watch, whatever floats their boat.

I'd appreciate it if you could provide prove this is the purpose of Windows 10, otherwise these types of posts are irrelevant to the thread purpose and potentially misleading. In which case if you want to talk about this further, feel free to open a thread in the suitable section(s).

News articles, ITS research, Blackhat / Defcon / Etc events

This is not evidence pertaining to Windows 10 being a free "infection", if you cannot provide for legal reasons or otherwise. Please let us keep this thread on-topic.

Please open a new thread if you want to continue educating people about security flaws with software. Thank you.

I'm not updates to windows 10. Windows 7 forever

I did upgrade, love it sofar!