Well it's actually a pretty good thing. I mean sure, both of these groups are declared criminal organizations and objectively they are, but these Hacktivist groups are working for a greater cause. The nice thing about them is that they have no bureaucracy or politics to actually think about which means they can just act. The United States, along with other countries, are obliged to think about these things beforehand and most of the time it's an extremely long process. Lots of stuff to say on the argument but checking this thread again I noticed it's actually really old and I feel like I'm necroposting. Too bad. devil, any news? You said you actually talked to a guy from BinarySec so I'm guessing you might still have some contacts. It'd be nice to know if things are actually happening.