22-12-2018, 02:39 PMSnacks Wrote: Alrighty, read you entire comment. I might have been a bit too hard on him, but that is only due to the fact that proving something very simple, such as facebook-page ownership, is not something that takes almost an hour to complete.
And by even further thoughtful thinking it does give him the advantage that he can provide that extra work to satisfy my questionaire of whether it actually is his work or not.
Not to flippant, but thank you for accusing me somewhat of trying to increase my post count regarding this thread. Posts can be obtained in a better way and through normal talking in lounges etc. I had no reason to accuse him of falsified work if all I wanted was to increase my post count. The main reason I actually wanted him to prove himself, was due to the fact that back on HackForums, LeakForums and even Nulled.to people stole (probably still an on-going thing) other peoples work without crediting them, and I also happened to be one of those victims, thus my skeptics regardin no validation.
On that note, yes I was harsh and hard on him, and I will write a letter of apology to him, though having another user to write what you wrote publicly instead of sending a DM/PM and then explaining all that, is kinda childish as well. Why childish? Well if you had written it to me in DM/PM then I would still have read it, and even written him an apology both as a DM/PM as well as a snippet of it on the thread. (still my intention to do so, regarding nontheless of your public input or if it was a DM/PM).
Whenever or not it was simple is a matter of subjective opinion and not your personal one, no matter how universal you think it might be. Trying should be rewarded, even you don't entirely succeed. What he gave you as evidence should at the very least be enough for you to avoid insulting him further and directing the conversation at him as a person instead of the topic at hand. Note, there were no reason to even start calling him names in the first place. I do get that you want someone to prove themselves, but that doesn't give you the free pass to completely ignore common sense and logic just to keep the argument going further. Instead you should look at what evidence he was giving you in an objective light and analyse it rather than simply telling him to get you the one specific piece of evidence you cherry picked (Facebook).
You gave him the option to prove himself when you asked him the first time, yet you didn't even take a minute to look into the evidence he provided before calling him out. Hence it was either not important to you in the first place and you just wanted to argue, or you didn't care about any other evidence than the one you requested and thus got blinded by the sheer anger over the possibility that he might have stolen it. We humans have this "innocent until proven otherwise" mentality because otherwise we'd try and blame everyone else based on the actions of a few people, which was your entire reason for going on this crusade as you said yourself. You refused to believe him regardless of how hard he tried because someone else stole something once. Proof can be created and manufacturedto cover a lie which is why you should take everything with a grain of salt in a scenario like this.
As I explained above, it is highly unlikely that he was lying at the time and nothing has changed that. My reason for posting this public was to counter your own toxic behaviour towards a member of the community to prove that work he put in to prove you wrong wasn't completely nullified, though I fear it might bet too late for that anyhow. Another reason is that this is s public forum and people should share their opinions and views, especially in a situation such as this.Writing a public apology holds far more value than a private one, as do a public statement than a private one. As for you reasoning for this crusade...
When you've been on forums for over a decade and have over a decade of experience in the field of graphical art and design you stumble over a great deal of thieves and less than honest people. I am usually the person who goes haywire and calling out people for stealing stuff, but I don't do it because it happened to me or someone I care about (but I assure, it has happened to me more times than I can count). I do it because I care about art, I care about the thought put behind that work. Someone trying to mimic the thoughts of someone else in order to earn fame or money is neither kind or smart to do as you will never actually be able to fully copy he mindset of someone else. I offer my analysis and ask for proof of creation because I want to provide as accurate as possible feedback to the person in question. I don't go on a crusade to satisfy my own personal revenge as a way to cope with something that occurred to me a few times.
Regardless of what happened to you or someone else in the past then a random stranger on a forum shouldn't be the target of that hatred you gained simply because you have a subjective opinion of them and refuses to use common sense and logic to analyse the situation.