Racism pisses me off

by Robert - 20-02-2016, 02:00 AM
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Posted: 20-02-2016, 02:00 AM
Like I was watching the ghost of Mississippi about a white man murdering a black civil rights leader, but gets away with it because he was white. I just do not understand how our ancestors over 50 years old do not consider colored people human beings. They speak, eat, walk, express themselves like all human beings do. It's like saying red is not a color because it is the color red. I know people were brainwashed and taught young about being racist, but to those parents teaching their children about being racist to colored or any kind of race is wrong and creates conflict on civil rights and humanity. Honestly, since I am half Hispanic and white I might be discriminated for having Mexican blood even if my skin was lighter. I wish I could go back in time to tell them my two cents and knock some common sense in these racist people. Racism will never end, but discrimination should only be spoken about another person through thoughts and not by speech. I do not personally think I would survive living in an extreme racist society back in the day when it was acceptable. I do not know why it took so long for people to understand it is wrong to discriminate people.
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Posted: 20-02-2016, 02:09 AM
What I'm saying is purely my opinion, so don't take offense to it.
Not trying to be mean, but I laughed a bit at this.

If you're referring to slavery, it wasn't that they were being 'racist' per se. They were treating them like what they were, slaves. If you want to do something, go talk to the tribal leaders who sold off their people for money, food, supplies and other things. If you continue to get pissed at the past, don't bother with things now. We as a people need to learn to move on, being fixated on racism as well as other negative things will only make it worse and cause more issues than it will fix. I agree with your point on that every race, gender, etc. should be fairly treated. But, let me put it to you this way. You say you wouldn't have been able to 'survive' in the older society? You must be pretty weak. If you can't adapt to what you're living in, then I would rather natural selection take its course. Rather than doing what you're doing, focusing on the negative aspects of things; why not focus on the positive and teach that. So, instead of saying something like "racism is wrong, if you are racist you are wrong." etc. Why not do it with "lives matter, whether you are black, white, mexican, etc. you still matter." Simple wording can make something change. And if you are whining about media, please note that unless you were there in person you will not know a large portion of the story.

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Posted: 20-02-2016, 02:19 AM
If you were living back then, you would be "racist" too.
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Posted: 20-02-2016, 02:19 AM
(20-02-2016, 02:09 AM)Death Incarnate Wrote: What I'm saying is purely my opinion, so don't take offense to it.
Not trying to be mean, but I laughed a bit at this.

If you're referring to slavery, it wasn't that they were being 'racist' per se. They were treating them like what they were, slaves. If you want to do something, go talk to the tribal leaders who sold off their people for money, food, supplies and other things. If you continue to get pissed at the past, don't bother with things now. We as a people need to learn to move on, being fixated on racism as well as other negative things will only make it worse and cause more issues than it will fix. I agree with your point on that every race, gender, etc. should be fairly treated. But, let me put it to you this way. You say you wouldn't have been able to 'survive' in the older society? You must be pretty weak. If you can't adapt to what you're living in, then I would rather natural selection take its course. Rather than doing what you're doing, focusing on the negative aspects of things; why not focus on the positive and teach that. So, instead of saying something like "racism is wrong, if you are racist you are wrong." etc. Why not do it with "lives matter, whether you are black, white, mexican, etc. you still matter." Simple wording can make something change. And if you are whining about media, please note that unless you were there in person you will not know a large portion of the story.

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Nobody in life is going to forget what happened in the past. For example, the statement "Forgive and Forget". Are you going to tell a girl who got raped and traumatized from that event "Hey, you should just forget about you getting raped and forgive the man who did it" Fuck no, I'd slap the piss out of someone who said that to me. Regarding "Adapting" to racism and just moving on, it's not something I can relate to you with. Simply because adapting is a characteristic of life, which racism can't relate with and is not even in that category. Adapting to your environment is learning how to survive based on what you have. If you were once rich, and now are poor, you then have to adapt to the lifestyle you will be living. If you moved locations in the world, you have to adapt to your resources and surroundings. Racism is a state of mind that unfortunately will never be forgotten. Not simply for blacks, but for every race that has not only been put into slavery, but treated differently because of the color of their skin, race, gender, or beliefs. Wording would not change a single thing about the society we once had in the past, in America as an example, whites were simply more powerful, and they "mattered more" than that of black descendant. We all know a massive portion of the story based on readings, scripts, history lessons in school, and actual survivors' explanations of the event.
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Posted: 20-02-2016, 02:46 AM
(20-02-2016, 02:09 AM)Death Incarnate Wrote: What I'm saying is purely my opinion, so don't take offense to it.
Not trying to be mean, but I laughed a bit at this.

If you're referring to slavery, it wasn't that they were being 'racist' per se. They were treating them like what they were, slaves. If you want to do something, go talk to the tribal leaders who sold off their people for money, food, supplies and other things. If you continue to get pissed at the past, don't bother with things now. We as a people need to learn to move on, being fixated on racism as well as other negative things will only make it worse and cause more issues than it will fix. I agree with your point on that every race, gender, etc. should be fairly treated. But, let me put it to you this way. You say you wouldn't have been able to 'survive' in the older society? You must be pretty weak. If you can't adapt to what you're living in, then I would rather natural selection take its course. Rather than doing what you're doing, focusing on the negative aspects of things; why not focus on the positive and teach that. So, instead of saying something like "racism is wrong, if you are racist you are wrong." etc. Why not do it with "lives matter, whether you are black, white, mexican, etc. you still matter." Simple wording can make something change. And if you are whining about media, please note that unless you were there in person you will not know a large portion of the story.

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I was talking about society when the civil rights movements 50 years ago. slavery is a whole different story of the society I was ranting about. As a person who self believed to treat other show I want to be treated and being part of the LGBT community, I would not survive in that environment/society. first of all, being an homosexual was clearly not acceptable at all since our modern world are barely realizing that we have every right as a man and a women to love another person. Second of all, I am part Mexican which were discriminated as well. I have no idea why I need to explain how I would be weak for not surviving in a society that does not accept many groups of people which I am part of. I would participate in the civil rights movement and try to promote change for the better. What I am trying to point out that I being an sensitive person and living with a lot of freedom that what people had 5 decades ago would be a huge struggle if I transported back in time tomorrow. Also, with empathy and having the ability to empathize another person and putting yourself in there shoes can tell a whole story about someone and what they went through. I am glad I made you laugh, but the whole idea is I cannot see why majority can discriminate people and think is was right back in the day.
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Posted: 20-02-2016, 03:51 AM
(20-02-2016, 02:46 AM)Robert Wrote:
(20-02-2016, 02:09 AM)Death Incarnate Wrote: What I'm saying is purely my opinion, so don't take offense to it.
Not trying to be mean, but I laughed a bit at this.

If you're referring to slavery, it wasn't that they were being 'racist' per se. They were treating them like what they were, slaves. If you want to do something, go talk to the tribal leaders who sold off their people for money, food, supplies and other things. If you continue to get pissed at the past, don't bother with things now. We as a people need to learn to move on, being fixated on racism as well as other negative things will only make it worse and cause more issues than it will fix. I agree with your point on that every race, gender, etc. should be fairly treated. But, let me put it to you this way. You say you wouldn't have been able to 'survive' in the older society? You must be pretty weak. If you can't adapt to what you're living in, then I would rather natural selection take its course. Rather than doing what you're doing, focusing on the negative aspects of things; why not focus on the positive and teach that. So, instead of saying something like "racism is wrong, if you are racist you are wrong." etc. Why not do it with "lives matter, whether you are black, white, mexican, etc. you still matter." Simple wording can make something change. And if you are whining about media, please note that unless you were there in person you will not know a large portion of the story.

/rant

I was talking about society when the civil rights movements 50 years ago. slavery is a whole different story of the society I was ranting about. As a person who self believed to treat other show I want to be treated and being part of the LGBT community, I would not survive in that environment/society. first of all, being an homosexual was clearly not acceptable at all since our modern world are barely realizing that we have every right as a man and a women to love another person. Second of all,  I am part Mexican which were discriminated as well. I have no idea why I need to explain how I would be weak for not surviving in a society that does not accept many groups of people which I am part of. I would participate in the civil rights movement and try to promote change for the better. What I am trying to point out that I being an sensitive person and living with a lot of freedom that what people had 5 decades ago would be a huge struggle if I transported back in time tomorrow. Also, with empathy and having the ability to empathize another person and putting yourself in there shoes can tell a whole story about someone and what they went through. I am glad I made you laugh, but the whole idea is I cannot see why majority can discriminate people and think is was right back in the day.

As time moves forward, humans become less and less primitive.  What we consider morally wrong now might not have been considered morally wrong a hundred years ago.  I find that racism either stems from slavery or cultural disparities.  Although, humans are somewhat naturally racist, and there is nothing we can do about that.  The majority of white people saw black people as inferior back then because they were slaves for quite a long time, and intelligence is a virtue that was and still is valued more in European culture than in African culture.
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Posted: 20-02-2016, 04:18 AM (This post was last modified: 20-02-2016, 04:35 AM by KOOPAOU812.)
(20-02-2016, 02:00 AM)Robert Wrote: ...since I am half Hispanic... I wish I could go back in time to tell them my two cents and knock some common sense in these racist people.

If you did that you would be lynched or firebombed, mostly because you are telling these people that their world views are inherently wrong, but also because you aren't white.

I like to think of it like this, Black people for centuries lived in Africa building mud huts and being hunter-gatherers for their tribes and villages. What were the Europeans doing during this time? Colonizing, advancing science and technology, and, in this case, enslaving those who were in no way a help towards society beyond being free labor. Through the slave trade we brought these people over into America to work for us and through that those people now live in an incredibly prosperous nation with incredible opportunities many around the world, their own skin color included, do not have. 

So what if we were racist slave owners than. For those actions, blacks and other races have a fantastic opportunity to function and help advance the modern world. 
  
And really, if we want to go by our economic idealism, Capitalism, the best kind of labor is free labor.

(20-02-2016, 02:00 AM)Robert Wrote: Honestly, since I am half Hispanic and white I might be discriminated for having Mexican blood even if my skin was lighter. 

Oh one more thing, you would have been. I believe part of the Jim-Crow laws in the south post bellum was that you were still considered black if one person was 1/8th black. So you would definitely make it on that list for Mexicans.
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Posted: 20-02-2016, 04:39 AM
(20-02-2016, 04:18 AM)KOOPAOU812 Wrote:
(20-02-2016, 02:00 AM)Robert Wrote: Honestly, since I am half Hispanic and white I might be discriminated for having Mexican blood even if my skin was lighter. 

Oh one more thing, you would have been. I believe part of the Jim-Crow laws in the south post bellum was that you were still considered black if one person was 1/8th black. So you would definitely make it on that list for Mexicans.

Yes, that is correct KOOPA.
Any blood running through you.
We learn quite a bit about those laws down here, don't we Senpai.
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Posted: 20-02-2016, 05:03 AM
We're all on a floating ball of rock which is part of a relatively small system within the mass nothingness we call the universe.
All problems are insignificant.
People will believe what they want to believe, and nothing will change that. Sorry bud.
Personally, I don't give a shit whether you're black, white, or identify as rainbow, just don't fuck with me and I won't fuck with you.
If you do fuck with me, I won't blame it on your whole race.

The HUMAN race is complete and utter shit, not just one piece of it.
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Posted: 20-02-2016, 05:14 AM
Remember, it's not always whites looking down on blacks. In fact, it can be quite the contrary.

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