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30-11-2015, 07:08 PM
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30-11-2015, 07:05 PM
Natsu Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:01 PM
Ares Wrote:
Then why not start off with warning or banning users that go off-topic and/or just spam threads with useless shit?

So answer me a question, if you had a site that was somewhat successful.. would you want to get trigger happy and ban all of the people that are bringing your site activity? If everyone is doing it then who's there to blame? That's the problem within the site as of now, Low Quality posting is almost natural for people, they don't even notice they're in the wrong. And if you ban one, then you're going to have to ban the rest. Which leaves you with the people saying they're "HQ" and have 200 posts. Boom, there goes your activity.

The best thing to do, would be take these situations more cautiously; try and produce better content to provoke more High Quality posts and then whenever the majority becomes HQ again, that leaves room to ban off the LQ people that simply don't know how to contribute. Otherwise, you're almost certainly going to put your forum in a body bag.

Well someone has to state an example. I would rather have a non toxic community and have a few users in it than one fulled with useless shit and active members that just spam. Giving someone a warning or two wont make them go fully inactive, sure you can even hand out bans to people that are just too autistic. Its all up to the owner what he wants the community to look like, if noone gets punished for doing stupid shit then they will just continue and everyone will just do as they do since nothing happens to them.

30-11-2015, 07:06 PM
Faded Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:04 PM
Carpesir Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:04 PM
Faded Wrote:
Horizon set a nice example.

So did I. The fact that you actually didn't response to my PM triggers me <_>

I had nothing to reply. What am I gonna say?
"It's ok, I'm sure you'll do better next time!"

Prove it on the forums.

30-11-2015, 07:05 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:04 PM
Faded Wrote:
Horizon set a nice example.

Reported it yet its still there? Maybe a good start would be to punish these useless posts?

[Image: rhwllf.png]

Did you guys remove warnings on the forum or something? Junking is disabled?
Edit: didnt see the img at first and it doesnt even load for me

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30-11-2015, 07:12 PM
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30-11-2015, 07:08 PM
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Did you guys remove warnings on the forum or something? Junking is disabled?

That's exactly my point. And where does it start? When will people come to the realization that this is a problem? I think it starts with us ( the more respected members in the community ) changing the way we conduct ourselves like you stated. I'm all for a change. The lounges and usergroups are a completely different story. That's what they're there for. However, when you're facing the public, where guests and new members can see your posts; we should keep it quality.

News does need to make a change and start recruiting better people for these questions that they have to ask. Nobody cares about the interviews if you're going to ask the same question in every single one.
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30-11-2015, 07:13 PM
#23
30-11-2015, 07:08 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:05 PM
Natsu Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:01 PM
Ares Wrote:
Then why not start off with warning or banning users that go off-topic and/or just spam threads with useless shit?

So answer me a question, if you had a site that was somewhat successful.. would you want to get trigger happy and ban all of the people that are bringing your site activity? If everyone is doing it then who's there to blame? That's the problem within the site as of now, Low Quality posting is almost natural for people, they don't even notice they're in the wrong. And if you ban one, then you're going to have to ban the rest. Which leaves you with the people saying they're "HQ" and have 200 posts. Boom, there goes your activity.

The best thing to do, would be take these situations more cautiously; try and produce better content to provoke more High Quality posts and then whenever the majority becomes HQ again, that leaves room to ban off the LQ people that simply don't know how to contribute. Otherwise, you're almost certainly going to put your forum in a body bag.

Well someone has to state an example. I would rather have a non toxic community and have a few users in it than one fulled with useless shit and active members that just spam. Giving someone a warning or two wont make them go fully inactive, sure you can even hand out bans to people that are just too autistic. Its all up to the owner what he wants the community to look like, if noone gets punished for doing stupid shit then they will just continue and everyone will just do as they do since nothing happens to them.

30-11-2015, 07:06 PM
Faded Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:04 PM
Carpesir Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:04 PM
Faded Wrote:
Horizon set a nice example.

So did I. The fact that you actually didn't response to my PM triggers me <_>

I had nothing to reply. What am I gonna say?
"It's ok, I'm sure you'll do better next time!"

Prove it on the forums.

30-11-2015, 07:05 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:04 PM
Faded Wrote:
Horizon set a nice example.

Reported it yet its still there? Maybe a good start would be to punish these useless posts?

[Image: rhwllf.png]

Did you guys remove warnings on the forum or something? Junking is disabled?
Edit: didnt see the img at first and it doesnt even load for me

[Image: 0d86nGf.png]

Imgur mirror, how's that?
[Image: InZ3hGx.png]

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30-11-2015, 07:13 PM
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30-11-2015, 06:54 PM
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I just got a question, what makes a post "HQ" in your opinion?

How is this in any way related to what I was talking about?
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30-11-2015, 07:14 PM
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30-11-2015, 07:13 PM
Faded Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:08 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:05 PM
Natsu Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:01 PM
Ares Wrote:
Then why not start off with warning or banning users that go off-topic and/or just spam threads with useless shit?

So answer me a question, if you had a site that was somewhat successful.. would you want to get trigger happy and ban all of the people that are bringing your site activity? If everyone is doing it then who's there to blame? That's the problem within the site as of now, Low Quality posting is almost natural for people, they don't even notice they're in the wrong. And if you ban one, then you're going to have to ban the rest. Which leaves you with the people saying they're "HQ" and have 200 posts. Boom, there goes your activity.

The best thing to do, would be take these situations more cautiously; try and produce better content to provoke more High Quality posts and then whenever the majority becomes HQ again, that leaves room to ban off the LQ people that simply don't know how to contribute. Otherwise, you're almost certainly going to put your forum in a body bag.

Well someone has to state an example. I would rather have a non toxic community and have a few users in it than one fulled with useless shit and active members that just spam. Giving someone a warning or two wont make them go fully inactive, sure you can even hand out bans to people that are just too autistic. Its all up to the owner what he wants the community to look like, if noone gets punished for doing stupid shit then they will just continue and everyone will just do as they do since nothing happens to them.

30-11-2015, 07:06 PM
Faded Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:04 PM
Carpesir Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:04 PM
Faded Wrote:
Horizon set a nice example.

So did I. The fact that you actually didn't response to my PM triggers me <_>

I had nothing to reply. What am I gonna say?
"It's ok, I'm sure you'll do better next time!"

Prove it on the forums.

30-11-2015, 07:05 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:04 PM
Faded Wrote:
Horizon set a nice example.

Reported it yet its still there? Maybe a good start would be to punish these useless posts?

[Image: rhwllf.png]

Did you guys remove warnings on the forum or something? Junking is disabled?
Edit: didnt see the img at first and it doesnt even load for me

[Image: 0d86nGf.png]

Imgur mirror, how's that?

Much better. Wouldnt junking the post also make the threads look better? Get all that useless shit out of the thread ya know

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30-11-2015, 07:15 PM
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30-11-2015, 07:14 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:13 PM
Faded Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:08 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:05 PM
Natsu Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:01 PM
Ares Wrote:
Then why not start off with warning or banning users that go off-topic and/or just spam threads with useless shit?

So answer me a question, if you had a site that was somewhat successful.. would you want to get trigger happy and ban all of the people that are bringing your site activity? If everyone is doing it then who's there to blame? That's the problem within the site as of now, Low Quality posting is almost natural for people, they don't even notice they're in the wrong. And if you ban one, then you're going to have to ban the rest. Which leaves you with the people saying they're "HQ" and have 200 posts. Boom, there goes your activity.

The best thing to do, would be take these situations more cautiously; try and produce better content to provoke more High Quality posts and then whenever the majority becomes HQ again, that leaves room to ban off the LQ people that simply don't know how to contribute. Otherwise, you're almost certainly going to put your forum in a body bag.

Well someone has to state an example. I would rather have a non toxic community and have a few users in it than one fulled with useless shit and active members that just spam. Giving someone a warning or two wont make them go fully inactive, sure you can even hand out bans to people that are just too autistic. Its all up to the owner what he wants the community to look like, if noone gets punished for doing stupid shit then they will just continue and everyone will just do as they do since nothing happens to them.

30-11-2015, 07:06 PM
Faded Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:04 PM
Carpesir Wrote:
So did I. The fact that you actually didn't response to my PM triggers me <_>

I had nothing to reply. What am I gonna say?
"It's ok, I'm sure you'll do better next time!"

Prove it on the forums.

30-11-2015, 07:05 PM
Ares Wrote:
Reported it yet its still there? Maybe a good start would be to punish these useless posts?

[Image: rhwllf.png]

Did you guys remove warnings on the forum or something? Junking is disabled?
Edit: didnt see the img at first and it doesnt even load for me

[Image: 0d86nGf.png]

Imgur mirror, how's that?

Much better. Wouldnt junking the post also make the threads look better? Get all that useless shit out of the thread ya know

I do remove the posts most of the time, but since Horizon was an example, I left it.
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30-11-2015, 07:17 PM
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30-11-2015, 07:13 PM
Gummy Wrote:
30-11-2015, 06:54 PM
Ares Wrote:
I just got a question, what makes a post "HQ" in your opinion?

How is this in any way related to what I was talking about?

You were talking about users being LQ etc "changes in what the users post" "people come online and they reply to threads and basically say "Wow, I agree with this"" arent you talking about LQ posting right there?

30-11-2015, 07:15 PM
Faded Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:14 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:13 PM
Faded Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:08 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:05 PM
Natsu Wrote:
So answer me a question, if you had a site that was somewhat successful.. would you want to get trigger happy and ban all of the people that are bringing your site activity? If everyone is doing it then who's there to blame? That's the problem within the site as of now, Low Quality posting is almost natural for people, they don't even notice they're in the wrong. And if you ban one, then you're going to have to ban the rest. Which leaves you with the people saying they're "HQ" and have 200 posts. Boom, there goes your activity.

The best thing to do, would be take these situations more cautiously; try and produce better content to provoke more High Quality posts and then whenever the majority becomes HQ again, that leaves room to ban off the LQ people that simply don't know how to contribute. Otherwise, you're almost certainly going to put your forum in a body bag.

Well someone has to state an example. I would rather have a non toxic community and have a few users in it than one fulled with useless shit and active members that just spam. Giving someone a warning or two wont make them go fully inactive, sure you can even hand out bans to people that are just too autistic. Its all up to the owner what he wants the community to look like, if noone gets punished for doing stupid shit then they will just continue and everyone will just do as they do since nothing happens to them.

30-11-2015, 07:06 PM
Faded Wrote:
I had nothing to reply. What am I gonna say?
"It's ok, I'm sure you'll do better next time!"

Prove it on the forums.


[Image: rhwllf.png]

Did you guys remove warnings on the forum or something? Junking is disabled?
Edit: didnt see the img at first and it doesnt even load for me

[Image: 0d86nGf.png]

Imgur mirror, how's that?

Much better. Wouldnt junking the post also make the threads look better? Get all that useless shit out of the thread ya know

I do remove the posts most of the time, but since Horizon was an example, I left it.

I guess that also works. Ill have to read how the warning system works on this forum again

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30-11-2015, 07:19 PM
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30-11-2015, 07:17 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:13 PM
Gummy Wrote:
30-11-2015, 06:54 PM
Ares Wrote:
I just got a question, what makes a post "HQ" in your opinion?

How is this in any way related to what I was talking about?

You were talking about users being LQ etc "changes in what the users post" "people come online and they reply to threads and basically say "Wow, I agree with this"" arent you talking about LQ posting right there?

30-11-2015, 07:15 PM
Faded Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:14 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:13 PM
Faded Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:08 PM
Ares Wrote:
Well someone has to state an example. I would rather have a non toxic community and have a few users in it than one fulled with useless shit and active members that just spam. Giving someone a warning or two wont make them go fully inactive, sure you can even hand out bans to people that are just too autistic. Its all up to the owner what he wants the community to look like, if noone gets punished for doing stupid shit then they will just continue and everyone will just do as they do since nothing happens to them.


Did you guys remove warnings on the forum or something? Junking is disabled?
Edit: didnt see the img at first and it doesnt even load for me

[Image: 0d86nGf.png]

Imgur mirror, how's that?

Much better. Wouldnt junking the post also make the threads look better? Get all that useless shit out of the thread ya know

I do remove the posts most of the time, but since Horizon was an example, I left it.

I guess that also works. Ill have to read how the warning system works on this forum again

https://nulledbb.com/Thread-Warnings-and...avoid-them

This might help you, explains how warnings are given, what happens at certain levels etc.
Most should be covered, if not, you could make a suggestion on what's missing.
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30-11-2015, 07:21 PM
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30-11-2015, 07:17 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:13 PM
Gummy Wrote:
30-11-2015, 06:54 PM
Ares Wrote:
I just got a question, what makes a post "HQ" in your opinion?

How is this in any way related to what I was talking about?

You were talking about users being LQ etc "changes in what the users post" "people come online and they reply to threads and basically say "Wow, I agree with this"" arent you talking about LQ posting right there?

Yes I was, there are many different types of LQ posting, that was just a primary example. So you asking me what a LQ
post is in my opinion is really irrelevant to the situation.
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30-11-2015, 07:26 PM
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30-11-2015, 07:21 PM
Gummy Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:17 PM
Ares Wrote:
30-11-2015, 07:13 PM
Gummy Wrote:
30-11-2015, 06:54 PM
Ares Wrote:
I just got a question, what makes a post "HQ" in your opinion?

How is this in any way related to what I was talking about?

You were talking about users being LQ etc "changes in what the users post" "people come online and they reply to threads and basically say "Wow, I agree with this"" arent you talking about LQ posting right there?

Yes I was, there are many different types of LQ posting, that was just a primary example. So you asking me what a LQ
post is in my opinion is really irrelevant to the situation.

You didnt even read my question rofl, I asked what makes posts HQ not LQ and I wanted to know since it clearly is an issiue in this community as you described on the OP.

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