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Scammed By Elysian [@5926]

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EDIT: Client paid, scam report resolved. Thank you @714 for reviewing my report.

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Name of the Scammer:@5926

Profile link of the Scammer: https://nulledbb.com/profile/5926/

What was the deal: I make a userbar set for his forum. 5 in total. All for $10. I'm sure some of you have seen them http://imgur.com/LhAc72h

What went wrong:He was given non-watermarked, raw image files. Client did not pay.

Proof:

Full Raw Skype Convo (I removed my skype email and a forum I mentioned.) (Also apologies to my boy Voltac, client wanted it similar to his userbars, but I made my own style instead out of respect of Voltac.)

I removed the imagur links to the raw userbar images just incase client decides to pay, or I decide to resell.
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[4/8/2016 5:16:26 PM] *** BubbleBoy would like to add you on Skype

Hi Perplexed, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
[4/8/2016 5:17:57 PM | Edited 5:18:10 PM] BubbleBoy: I finally reached 25 posts and was able to read your message
[4/8/2016 7:01:42 PM] *** BubbleBoy would like to add you on Skype

Hi Perplexed, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
[4/8/2016 7:12:24 PM] *** Perplexed has shared contact details with BubbleBoy. ***
[4/8/2016 7:12:27 PM] Perplexed: Hey dude!
[4/8/2016 7:12:34 PM] BubbleBoy: hi :D
[4/8/2016 7:12:36 PM] Perplexed: So
[4/8/2016 7:12:45 PM] Perplexed: How much are your userbanners?
[4/8/2016 7:13:43 PM] Perplexed: Like base price.
[4/8/2016 7:13:49 PM] Perplexed: because I need them for my website.
[4/8/2016 7:13:52 PM] Perplexed: Forum
[4/8/2016 7:14:30 PM] BubbleBoy: Userbanner?
[4/8/2016 7:14:33 PM] BubbleBoy: Userbar?
[4/8/2016 7:14:35 PM] Perplexed: Yeah
[4/8/2016 7:14:39 PM] Perplexed: I call them bars.
[4/8/2016 7:14:49 PM] BubbleBoy: I charge $10 each
[4/8/2016 7:15:01 PM] Perplexed: Hows about
[4/8/2016 7:15:03 PM] Perplexed: I upgrade you?
[4/8/2016 7:15:12 PM] BubbleBoy: Nah
[4/8/2016 7:15:22 PM] BubbleBoy: xD
[4/8/2016 7:15:32 PM] Perplexed: I mean I have $120 in my debit card
[4/8/2016 7:15:33 PM] Perplexed: lmao
[4/8/2016 7:15:47 PM] BubbleBoy: Wait lemme finish Tongue
[4/8/2016 7:16:23 PM] Perplexed: ok
[4/8/2016 7:17:24 PM] BubbleBoy: I charge $10 each, the branch of the user is free. For example, you want a base userbar for your forum, like admin, dev, and whatever, you just pay for ONE unique ub, then the changes afterwards is free, like color, and minor cosmetic changes.
[4/8/2016 7:17:40 PM] BubbleBoy: and name change
[4/8/2016 7:17:42 PM] Perplexed: Ah
[4/8/2016 7:17:53 PM] Perplexed: So
[4/8/2016 7:17:58 PM] Perplexed: If I bought an admin one
[4/8/2016 7:18:09 PM] Perplexed: You could change the text after
[4/8/2016 7:18:11 PM] Perplexed: to like mod?
[4/8/2016 7:18:15 PM] BubbleBoy: yup
[4/8/2016 7:18:23 PM] Perplexed: so its a one off payment basically?
[4/8/2016 7:18:30 PM] BubbleBoy: If buy admin, I can make free ub's based off of that.
[4/8/2016 7:18:44 PM] Perplexed: Oo
[4/8/2016 7:18:46 PM] BubbleBoy: Dosent make sense to pay for each ub if the design is the same
[4/8/2016 7:18:49 PM] Perplexed: Thats awesome.
[4/8/2016 7:18:50 PM] Perplexed: Yeah
[4/8/2016 7:19:11 PM] BubbleBoy: Yup :D
[4/8/2016 7:19:24 PM] Perplexed: Can you do ones similar to NBBs?
[4/8/2016 7:19:28 PM] BubbleBoy: xD
[4/8/2016 7:19:32 PM] BubbleBoy: Yeah
[4/8/2016 7:19:46 PM] BubbleBoy: I laughed because a lot of people like nbb's userbars
[4/8/2016 7:19:52 PM] Perplexed: theyre awesome
[4/8/2016 7:19:55 PM] BubbleBoy: yeah
[4/8/2016 7:19:57 PM] BubbleBoy: and clean
[4/8/2016 7:19:59 PM] Perplexed: the guy charges $45 for 3
[4/8/2016 7:20:02 PM] BubbleBoy: xD
[4/8/2016 7:20:08 PM] Perplexed: no jokes
[4/8/2016 7:20:13 PM] BubbleBoy: Unique or identical?
[4/8/2016 7:20:13 PM] Perplexed: $15 for one
[4/8/2016 7:20:19 PM] Perplexed: unique
[4/8/2016 7:20:30 PM] Perplexed: identical is like $10 each
[4/8/2016 7:20:38 PM] BubbleBoy: oh wow
[4/8/2016 7:20:44 PM] Perplexed: yeah
[4/8/2016 7:20:46 PM] Perplexed: but
[4/8/2016 7:21:14 PM] BubbleBoy: See, I only charge $10 for a unqiue userbar, then minor cosmetic, namechange and color are free to make more ubs
[4/8/2016 7:21:25 PM] Perplexed: oo
[4/8/2016 7:21:35 PM] Perplexed: Could you use a base like the NBB admin ub?
[4/8/2016 7:21:43 PM] BubbleBoy: Yeah
[4/8/2016 7:21:48 PM] Perplexed: but then change the colour and text?
[4/8/2016 7:21:48 PM] BubbleBoy: I can make anything
[4/8/2016 7:22:03 PM] BubbleBoy: yup
[4/8/2016 7:22:04 PM] Perplexed: how long will it take?
[4/8/2016 7:22:23 PM] BubbleBoy: Im currently working on a client, but I can work on it very soon today
[4/8/2016 7:22:29 PM] Perplexed: Alright
[4/8/2016 7:22:35 PM] Perplexed: Hmu when youre free
[4/8/2016 7:22:38 PM] Perplexed: I need the desperatley
[4/8/2016 7:22:40 PM] BubbleBoy: np :D
[4/8/2016 7:22:45 PM] Perplexed: ty
[4/8/2016 7:22:57 PM] BubbleBoy: I can make a voltac style userbar instead of copying though
[4/8/2016 7:23:04 PM] Perplexed: Yes
[4/8/2016 7:23:06 PM] Perplexed: please do
[4/8/2016 7:23:23 PM] BubbleBoy: yeah, because, I still feel bad copying his style lol
[4/8/2016 7:23:30 PM] Perplexed: yeah lol
[4/8/2016 7:23:39 PM] Perplexed: anyway, hook me up when youre free
[4/8/2016 7:23:42 PM] Perplexed: and ill pay Tongue
[4/8/2016 7:23:44 PM] BubbleBoy: np
[4/9/2016 3:56:14 AM] Perplexed: done yet?
[4/9/2016 9:15:41 AM] BubbleBoy: I will begin your design on monday, im on break Tongue
[4/9/2016 9:28:57 AM] Perplexed: :(
[4/9/2016 9:29:06 AM] Perplexed: my break ends on Monday..
[4/9/2016 9:30:45 AM] BubbleBoy: You won't have to do anything though, right? I'm going to be the one making the ub Tongue
[4/9/2016 9:31:04 AM] Perplexed: But I go to school for 7 hours
[4/9/2016 9:31:16 AM] BubbleBoy: Oh i see
[4/9/2016 9:31:20 AM] Perplexed: Why can't you do it today?
[4/9/2016 9:31:26 AM] Perplexed: is there a problem?
[4/9/2016 9:31:40 AM] BubbleBoy: Because its the weekend, i spend time with family and go places
[4/9/2016 9:31:45 AM] BubbleBoy: I have a life xD
[4/9/2016 9:31:49 AM] Perplexed: I know
[4/9/2016 9:31:55 AM] Perplexed: I'm not saying you don't
[4/9/2016 9:32:16 AM] Perplexed: ugh fine I'll wait
[4/10/2016 1:00:03 PM] BubbleBoy: I haven't forgot about you! I will start monday! :D
[4/11/2016 1:50:48 PM] BubbleBoy: I'm going to start on the userbar!
[4/11/2016 1:53:31 PM] BubbleBoy: I'm going to make a voltac style, but I don't want to completely copy his style so I'm going to add some of my style to it
[4/11/2016 3:08:23 PM] Perplexed: kk
[4/11/2016 3:30:23 PM] BubbleBoy: it came out pretty cool
[4/11/2016 3:30:31 PM] BubbleBoy: it was hard as hell though lol
[4/11/2016 3:30:44 PM] BubbleBoy: voltac does some crazy layering
[4/11/2016 3:30:59 PM] BubbleBoy: I'm like 75% done
[4/11/2016 3:31:03 PM] BubbleBoy: I'll show u soon
[4/11/2016 3:39:58 PM] Perplexed: kk
[4/11/2016 3:47:52 PM] BubbleBoy: what's your forum name?
[4/11/2016 3:48:41 PM] Perplexed: fusionforums
[4/11/2016 4:04:16 PM] Perplexed: if you meant my name
[4/11/2016 4:04:18 PM] Perplexed: its perplexed
[4/11/2016 4:25:19 PM] BubbleBoy: http://imgur.com/****
[4/11/2016 4:25:37 PM] Perplexed: thats amazing
[4/11/2016 4:25:40 PM] Perplexed: just one thing
[4/11/2016 4:25:44 PM] Perplexed: mind changing the font?
[4/11/2016 4:25:50 PM] Perplexed: to something for futuristic
[4/11/2016 4:26:17 PM] BubbleBoy: No problem!
[4/11/2016 4:35:58 PM] BubbleBoy: http://imgur.com/*****
[4/11/2016 4:37:52 PM] Perplexed: amazing
[4/11/2016 4:38:06 PM] Perplexed: so now do I just specify how many I want?
[4/11/2016 4:38:12 PM] Perplexed: and you edit the colours and shit?
[4/11/2016 4:40:17 PM] Perplexed: yes?
[4/11/2016 4:40:19 PM] Perplexed: no?
[4/11/2016 4:46:42 PM] Perplexed: id like
[4/11/2016 4:47:07 PM] Perplexed: mod, super mod, emerald, diamond as the same design
[4/11/2016 5:03:05 PM] BubbleBoy: Yup!
[4/11/2016 5:03:18 PM] BubbleBoy: As long as it's the same design
[4/11/2016 5:03:32 PM] BubbleBoy: i can change text and color
[4/11/2016 5:09:51 PM] BubbleBoy: http://imgur.com/a/*****1
[4/11/2016 5:10:08 PM] BubbleBoy: now im gonna do emmerald and diamond :D
[4/11/2016 5:12:17 PM] Perplexed: wow
[4/11/2016 5:12:22 PM] Perplexed: thats great
[4/11/2016 5:13:44 PM] Perplexed: dude wait
[4/11/2016 5:14:00 PM] Perplexed: for emerald and diamond can we have a diff style?
[4/11/2016 5:14:09 PM] BubbleBoy: yeah
[4/11/2016 5:14:12 PM] Perplexed: like simpler?
[4/11/2016 5:14:17 PM] BubbleBoy: Im making minor changes to current
[4/11/2016 5:14:24 PM] BubbleBoy: thats what i was going to do too
[4/11/2016 5:14:27 PM] Perplexed: ahhh
[4/11/2016 5:14:29 PM] Perplexed: okay
[4/11/2016 5:14:34 PM] Perplexed: ty
[4/11/2016 5:30:05 PM] BubbleBoy: diaomond is 1st then emerald?
[4/11/2016 5:30:20 PM] BubbleBoy: diamond, then emerald is a level up?
[4/11/2016 5:36:13 PM] Perplexed: yh
[4/11/2016 5:36:21 PM] Perplexed: yeah
[4/11/2016 5:44:32 PM] BubbleBoy: ok finished
[4/11/2016 5:44:46 PM] BubbleBoy: http://imgur.com/a/u*****
[4/11/2016 5:45:25 PM] BubbleBoy: i changed mod color becasue emerald is green
[4/11/2016 5:49:04 PM] Perplexed: awesome
[4/11/2016 5:49:10 PM] Perplexed: i need to go sleep
[4/11/2016 5:49:14 PM] Perplexed: its 12 am here
[4/11/2016 5:49:14 PM] Perplexed: q-q
[4/11/2016 5:49:23 PM] Perplexed: ill pay you tomorrow
[4/11/2016 5:49:32 PM] Perplexed: thank you
[4/11/2016 5:49:32 PM] BubbleBoy: no problem man
[4/11/2016 5:49:39 PM] BubbleBoy: my paypal is
[4/11/2016 5:49:45 PM] BubbleBoy: **************@gmail.com
[4/11/2016 5:49:52 PM] Perplexed: kk
[4/11/2016 5:49:56 PM] BubbleBoy: Price was $10 :D
[4/11/2016 5:50:04 PM] Perplexed: mhmmm
[4/11/2016 5:50:07 PM] BubbleBoy: Good deal huh xD
[4/11/2016 5:50:11 PM] Perplexed: yep
[4/11/2016 5:50:14 PM] Perplexed: night
[4/11/2016 5:50:17 PM] BubbleBoy: gn
[4/12/2016 1:30:40 AM] Perplexed: wait dude
[4/12/2016 1:30:42 AM] Perplexed: you do awards?
[4/12/2016 1:32:16 AM] BubbleBoy: yeah
[4/12/2016 1:34:45 AM] Perplexed: oh
[4/12/2016 1:34:51 AM] Perplexed: how much are they lol
[4/12/2016 1:35:24 AM] BubbleBoy: https://i.imgur.com/s*****
[4/12/2016 1:35:30 AM] BubbleBoy: My graphic thread from ****
[4/12/2016 1:35:35 AM] BubbleBoy: forums
[4/12/2016 3:03:01 AM] BubbleBoy: If you want, I can remove the showcase.
[4/12/2016 3:03:24 AM] BubbleBoy: I just wanted to show people my pricing and my work
[4/12/2016 3:03:58 AM] BubbleBoy: It's watermarked, but if you still dont feel comfortable I will remove it.
[4/12/2016 7:57:20 PM] BubbleBoy: Have I been paid yet?
[4/16/2016 11:06:01 PM] BubbleBoy: helllo?
[4/16/2016 11:15:08 PM | Removed 11:15:21 PM] BubbleBoy: This message has been removed.
[4/16/2016 11:18:46 PM | Edited 11:22:19 PM] BubbleBoy: If I'm not paid soon, I'll have to release the psds.
[4/16/2016 11:31:44 PM] BubbleBoy: I'll give you until the 20th of April.
[4/17/2016 2:41:27 PM] ??????: you can release them
[4/17/2016 2:41:28 PM] ??????: idc
[4/17/2016 2:41:37 PM] ??????: erudites making me some anyway
[1:11:40 PM] BubbleBoy: wtf dude
[1:11:53 PM] BubbleBoy: That's messed up. But okay.


If anymore proof is needed, I'll be happy to provide.

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RE: Scammed By Elysian [@5926]

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Elysian
Waiting for his reply on this situation.

Can you provide proof that it's his Skype (him giving you his Skype etc).
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18-04-2016, 09:08 PM
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Elysian
Waiting for his reply on this situation.

Can you provide proof that it's his Skype (him giving you his Skype etc).

http://imgur.com/PvqxFpP

He changed his name from Perplexed to symbols. http://imgur.com/RUZ8uRr

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18-04-2016, 09:22 PM
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18-04-2016, 09:15 PM
BubbleBoy Wrote:
18-04-2016, 09:08 PM
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Elysian
Waiting for his reply on this situation.

Can you provide proof that it's his Skype (him giving you his Skype etc).

http://imgur.com/PvqxFpP

He changed his name from Perplexed to symbols. http://imgur.com/RUZ8uRr

Thank you.
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18-04-2016, 10:54 PM
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The reason I changed my name is because my youtube channel is that.
I said it's fine to release the things, as you please.
I will not need these any more as I think erudite is making me some.
Sorry for wasting the time you put in to these.
If you give me your paypal I can send you the money, if I decide I keep them.
You said you'd give me till the 20th to decide.

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18-04-2016, 11:00 PM
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18-04-2016, 10:54 PM
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The reason I changed my name is because my youtube channel is that.
I said it's fine to release the things, as you please.
I will not need these any more as I think erudite is making me some.
Sorry for wasting the time you put in to these.
If you give me your paypal I can send you the money, if I decide I keep them.
You said you'd give me till the 20th to decide.

[4/17/2016 2:41:27 PM] ??????: you can release them
[4/17/2016 2:41:28 PM] ??????: idc
[4/17/2016 2:41:37 PM] ??????: erudites making me some anyway

I sent you my paypal email already.

"You said you'd give me till the 20th to decide."

But you said you didn't care.

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18-04-2016, 11:00 PM
BubbleBoy Wrote:
18-04-2016, 10:54 PM
Elysian Wrote:
The reason I changed my name is because my youtube channel is that.
I said it's fine to release the things, as you please.
I will not need these any more as I think erudite is making me some.
Sorry for wasting the time you put in to these.
If you give me your paypal I can send you the money, if I decide I keep them.
You said you'd give me till the 20th to decide.

[4/17/2016 2:41:27 PM] ??????: you can release them
[4/17/2016 2:41:28 PM] ??????: idc
[4/17/2016 2:41:37 PM] ??????: erudites making me some anyway

I sent you my paypal email already.

"You said you'd give me till the 20th to decide."

But you said you didn't care.

I never said I didn't care.
Show me where I said that please.
And I meant I don't care if you release them.
You said 'either pay me or I release the PSD's'
I choose release the psds.

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18-04-2016, 11:02 PM
Elysian Wrote:
18-04-2016, 11:00 PM
BubbleBoy Wrote:
18-04-2016, 10:54 PM
Elysian Wrote:
The reason I changed my name is because my youtube channel is that.
I said it's fine to release the things, as you please.
I will not need these any more as I think erudite is making me some.
Sorry for wasting the time you put in to these.
If you give me your paypal I can send you the money, if I decide I keep them.
You said you'd give me till the 20th to decide.

[4/17/2016 2:41:27 PM] ??????: you can release them
[4/17/2016 2:41:28 PM] ??????: idc
[4/17/2016 2:41:37 PM] ??????: erudites making me some anyway

I sent you my paypal email already.

"You said you'd give me till the 20th to decide."

But you said you didn't care.

I never said I didn't care.
Show me where I said that please.
And I meant I don't care if you release them.
You said 'either pay me or I release the PSD's'
I choose release the psds.

http://i.imgur.com/afbpxpj.png

And here's confirmation of you saying you were going to pay me the next day.

http://imgur.com/AoPRSI5

"I will not need these any more as I think erudite is making me some."

Also, who backs out on a userbar deal set if they "think" someone is making userbars for them?
On skype you said very clearly he is making you userbars, not that you "think" he was.
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RE: Scammed By Elysian [@5926]

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18-04-2016, 11:03 PM
BubbleBoy Wrote:
18-04-2016, 11:02 PM
Elysian Wrote:
18-04-2016, 11:00 PM
BubbleBoy Wrote:
18-04-2016, 10:54 PM
Elysian Wrote:
The reason I changed my name is because my youtube channel is that.
I said it's fine to release the things, as you please.
I will not need these any more as I think erudite is making me some.
Sorry for wasting the time you put in to these.
If you give me your paypal I can send you the money, if I decide I keep them.
You said you'd give me till the 20th to decide.

[4/17/2016 2:41:27 PM] ??????: you can release them
[4/17/2016 2:41:28 PM] ??????: idc
[4/17/2016 2:41:37 PM] ??????: erudites making me some anyway

I sent you my paypal email already.

"You said you'd give me till the 20th to decide."

But you said you didn't care.

I never said I didn't care.
Show me where I said that please.
And I meant I don't care if you release them.
You said 'either pay me or I release the PSD's'
I choose release the psds.

http://i.imgur.com/afbpxpj.png

And here's confirmation of you saying you were going to pay me the next day.

http://imgur.com/AoPRSI5

"I will not need these any more as I think erudite is making me some."

Also, who backs out on a userbar deal set if they "think" someone is making userbars for them?
On skype you said very clearly he is making you userbars, not that you "think" he was.

You know what I'm fucking done with you.
You're just wasting my time.
$10 is being sent to your paypal.
HAVE A GOOD DAY!

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19-04-2016, 12:05 AM
Elysian Wrote:
18-04-2016, 11:03 PM
BubbleBoy Wrote:
18-04-2016, 11:02 PM
Elysian Wrote:
18-04-2016, 11:00 PM
BubbleBoy Wrote:
18-04-2016, 10:54 PM
Elysian Wrote:
The reason I changed my name is because my youtube channel is that.
I said it's fine to release the things, as you please.
I will not need these any more as I think erudite is making me some.
Sorry for wasting the time you put in to these.
If you give me your paypal I can send you the money, if I decide I keep them.
You said you'd give me till the 20th to decide.

[4/17/2016 2:41:27 PM] ??????: you can release them
[4/17/2016 2:41:28 PM] ??????: idc
[4/17/2016 2:41:37 PM] ??????: erudites making me some anyway

I sent you my paypal email already.

"You said you'd give me till the 20th to decide."

But you said you didn't care.

I never said I didn't care.
Show me where I said that please.
And I meant I don't care if you release them.
You said 'either pay me or I release the PSD's'
I choose release the psds.

http://i.imgur.com/afbpxpj.png

And here's confirmation of you saying you were going to pay me the next day.

http://imgur.com/AoPRSI5

"I will not need these any more as I think erudite is making me some."

Also, who backs out on a userbar deal set if they "think" someone is making userbars for them?
On skype you said very clearly he is making you userbars, not that you "think" he was.

You know what I'm fucking done with you.
You're just wasting my time.
$10 is being sent to your paypal.
HAVE A GOOD DAY!

Recieved, thank you.Just like you've wasted mine.

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