What do you believe is fake?

02-05-2019, 03:54 PM

commapy Wrote: I'm always open for a debate. What did you find when you researched that made you believe?

Fair enough, ok first in the bible because I'm a christian. Thanks btw for excepting the debate!

In the book of Genesis in the bible it talks about how God made the earth and created man-kind. Adam and Eve right, Jesus is the son of god. People all have descendantsno matter white, black, hispanic, etc. We are all descendants of Abraham.

Christians believe there is a Heaven and a Hell, hell is for non-believers who never gave there life to Christ. Heavens for people who are righteous, meaning people who follow the word (bible) and for people who follow the ten commandments.


That being said in-order to be a christian you just talk to god and repent for your sins, we are not "Holy" like people like to say we are. Like holy I mean extremist sure there are stuff that is not excepted but we still love people for them.


I am starting broad b/c I don't know exactly what you find hard to believe or questioning. Feel fee to ask me for any questions.

You can start the debate I'm just giving you a background of Christianity (you prob already know about it but it's fine). My post are probably going to get lengthy, so you might have to read a bit.

Biblical Events have been proven by scientist as well as the crucifixion of Christ.

02-05-2019, 08:23 PM

Starboy Wrote: Fair enough, ok first in the bible because I'm a christian. Thanks btw for excepting the debate!

In the book of Genesis in the bible it talks about how God made the earth and created man-kind. Adam and Eve right, Jesus is the son of god. People all have descendantsno matter white, black, hispanic, etc. We are all descendants of Abraham.

Christians believe there is a Heaven and a Hell, hell is for non-believers who never gave there life to Christ. Heavens for people who are righteous, meaning people who follow the word (bible) and for people who follow the ten commandments.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ten+comm...rceid=chro

That being said in-order to be a christian you just talk to god and repent for your sins, we are not "Holy" like people like to say we are.


I am starting broad b/c I don't know exactly what you find hard to believe or questioning. Feel fee to ask me for any questions.

You can start the debate I'm just giving you a background of Christianity (you prob already know about it but it's fine). My post are probably going to get lengthy, so you might have to read a bit.

Ah great! First of all, for me such topics are hard to debate because I struggle with finding the right words but I'll give it a try.

Personally, I feel like I can't believe in the thought of a creator, such as god. I see religion just as some sort of an easy explanation for hard questions like afterlife and how humans evolved. When I think about these questions, I either stop thinking about them because, for me, there is no sense about wasting my mental energy on thinking about something that wont ever be really result in a yes or no, or I put my trust into science (which is kinda like religion because there is no proof to these elemental questions but it sounds more plausible to me and I can stop thinking about the questions).

I didn't grow up in a religious family and I never really understood the concept of religions, if there is one. Still, I'm definitely interested in other peoples opinions and experiences, like you have.

Probably forgot some things I wanted to say, but this should give you a bigger picture about some of my thoughts

02-05-2019, 08:49 PM

commapy Wrote: Ah great! First of all, for me such topics are hard to debate because I struggle with finding the right words but I'll give it a try.

Personally, I feel like I can't believe in the thought of a creator, such as god. I see religion just as some sort of an easy explanation for hard questions like afterlife and how humans evolved. When I think about these questions, I either stop thinking about them because, for me, there is no sense about wasting my mental energy on thinking about something that wont ever be really result in a yes or no, or I put my trust into science (which is kinda like religion because there is no proof to these elemental questions but it sounds more plausible to me and I can stop thinking about the questions).

I didn't grow up in a religious family and I never really understood the concept of religions, if there is one. Still, I'm definitely interested in other peoples opinions and experiences, like you have.

Probably forgot some things I wanted to say, but this should give you a bigger picture about some of my thoughts

I totally understand your thought's and thinking. I wish scientist never would have tried to confuse humanity on their theories on how the world was made. Scientist really don't know the right ingredients that formed the world and I believe that the secrets on the creation of the world are found in the bible. I suggest that you maybe read the first chapterof the bible, I know it's a chore and I don't know if you enjoy reading but it's good to have some spiritual knowledge whether non-believer or believer. Going to church helps too, I wish I could invite you to my church (I go to Faithchurch) cause they would be able to explain a little better.

Putting your trust into science is good in some cases but in other's you should pick your own path and explore. Christianity is a really good option because I find that once you find your relationship with God all things come to light. Moving on to the true creation of the world here is what the book off Genesis say's click the spoiler. I'm not asking you to read all of it but try and decipher through some of it. Think about this to, Jesus and the disciples where all real humans during the age of Christ. There is proof of the burials of the disciples as well as places they have visited in Jerusalem and other places.



It sounds like with you, you but your trust to much in the science aspect of creation and don't focus more of the logical perspective.

Afterlife:
As far as the Afterlife or Heaven is, this is basically a place you go after you die. Automatic suicide does not result to going to Heaven in the Christian point of view. As I said up above of my explanation Heaven is wonderful, and has pearly gates and mansions for those who except Christ as their lord and savior. There has been aplethoraof movies out there of people who have seen heaven. Plus again the description of heaven can be found in the bible. When you die your soul or spirit goes up to heaven rather than you just transporting to another world. Christianity branched out into other forms of religion like Judaism, Muslim religion, Hinduism, Confucianism, etc. People know Jesus roamed the earth but I find seem to not except him and go about there own pathand create there own gods. I am not referring to you it's just seems like the human nature which is sad to say.


Other things to know:
Demons and other satanic objects, games and other things do exist as well. Being possessed is a real thing but I know I wrote a-lot so I will give you some time to ponder.

02-05-2019, 09:31 PM

Starboy Wrote: I totally understand your thought's and thinking. I wish scientist never would have tried to confuse humanity on their theories on how the world was made. Scientist really don't know the right ingredients that formed the world and I believe that the secrets on the creation of the world are found in the bible. I suggest that you maybe read the first chapterof the bible, I know it's a chore and I don't know if you enjoy reading but it's good to have some spiritual knowledge whether non-believer or believer. Going to church helps too, I wish I could invite you to my church (I go to Faithchurch) cause they would be able to explain a little better.

Putting your trust into science is good in some cases but in other's you should pick your own path and explore. Christianity is a really good option because I find that once you find your relationship with God all things come to light. Moving on to the true creation of the world here is what the book off Genesis say's click the spoiler. I'm not asking you to read all of it but try and decipher through some of it. Think about this to, Jesus and the disciples where all real humans during the age of Christ. There is proof of the burials of the disciples as well as places they have visited in Jerusalem and other places.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...rsion=NKJV This is a new King James Version copy of Genesis feel free to read and ask me about any questions.

It sounds like with you, you but your trust to much in the science aspect of creation and don't focus more of the logical perspective.

Afterlife:
As far as the Afterlife or Heaven is, this is basically a place you go after you die. Automatic suicide does not result to going to Heaven in the Christian point of view. As I said up above of my explanation Heaven is wonderful, and has pearly gates and mansions for those who except Christ as their lord and savior. There has been aplethoraof movies out there of people who have seen heaven. Plus again the description of heaven can be found in the bible. When you die your soul or spirit goes up to heaven rather than you just transporting to another world. Christianity branched out into other forms of religion like Judaism, Muslim religion, Hinduism, Confucianism, etc. People know Jesus roamed the earth but I find seem to not except him and go about there own pathand create there own gods. I am not referring to you it's just seems like the human nature which is sad to say.


Other things to know:
Demons and other satanic objects, games and other things do exist as well. Being possessed is a real thing but I know I wrote a-lot so I will give you some time to ponder.

This is why I think there isn't going to be an end in this discussion. You see for example, I could turn around what you said in line 1-2 ("I wish scientist never would have tried to confuse humanity on their theories on how the world was made")
to "I wish christians never would have tried to confuse humanity on their theories on how the world was made".
The things that sound logical for you, may be the completely opposite of what my believes are in. If you break it down to the end, there is no proof to science and no proof to religion, there is only what you yourself believe in and decide for. For me science sound more logical, just as your religion does to you, so I put my trust in science and you yours in religion.

I'd like to say tho, I absolutely respect all kind of peoples religions and believes, the values they convey and the communication they're creating between people. I think I said everything I wanted to say and can conclude this debate (from my side).
Thanks for taking your time, I really appreciate it!

02-05-2019, 10:03 PM

commapy Wrote: This is why I think there isn't going to be an end in this discussion. You see for example, I could turn around what you said in line 1-2 ("I wish scientist never would have tried to confuse humanity on their theories on how the world was made")
to "I wish christians never would have tried to confuse humanity on their theories on how the world was made".
The things that sound logical for you, may be the completely opposite of what my believes are in. If you break it down to the end, there is no proof to science and no proof to religion, there is only what you yourself believe in and decide for. For me science sound more logical, just as your religion does to you, so I put my trust in science and you yours in religion.

I'd like to say tho, I absolutely respect all kind of peoples religions and believes, the values they convey and the communication they're creating between people. I think I said everything I wanted to say and can conclude this debate (from my side).
Thanks for taking your time, I really appreciate it!

I also respect your opinions and views on religion as a whole. Talking to you was a learning experience for me and I think it goes both ways I will see you around. Always keep your head up and never loose your politeness and respect you will go far.

This concludes the debate (well it was not really a debate but a mere discussion.

I see people talk about religion as the thing they don't believe in. Sure, believing in something that no scientists have ever managed to prove can and will lead a lot of people into not believing into this "fairy tale". But believing in a God doesn't mean that your life is solely based around that God or whatever your religion preaches because, in the end, you're the one who's gonna decide how to live. If you tell yourself that you shouldn't believe in a God because you don't want to build such a connection with someone that limits your free will, then sure, go ahead. But to call it a fairy tale is just straight up mocking the religious ones.

I belibe is that my fancy france teacher is a trap and fake

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The earth isn't flat! nor Round! It's all hilly Ha ha ha xD